On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 12:01:56 -0500, John in detroit <***@blank.net>
wrote:
>fritz wrote:
>
>>> Homosexual Catholic priest who
>>> for half a century willfully preyed on boys in the church and young
>>> men in the seminaries are a good example. They were an "Organized"
>>> band of homosexual child rapist not that much different than the North
>>> American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), which was in fact founded
>>> by a homosexual priest. You homos have a play book on the sexual abuse
>>> of boys...
>>
>> Did the heterosexual Catholic priest also have an organization?
>> How come you guys always play down the fact that girls are
>> the victims many times more often than boys?
>>
>> Don't like girls?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Fritz ...
>
>Thanks Fritz.. I missed that last lie of his (That a Priest founded
>NAMBLA) though I did post the originations true founding. It was a
>defense league for a bunch of New England School teachers, properly
>accused of molesting young boys.
>
>My source on that is NAMBLA by the way (I mentioned they spoke on a
>local tv talk show... One which ran serious disclamers)
>
>I should point out that prior to that talk show almost nobody outside of
>the child abuse community (All three of them) had heard of these folks,
>they had hoped to build up membership by a TV appearance, As it
>happens, they had to crawl under a rock for a while as what was built up
>was the pitchfork and baseball bat committee sound the hue and cry for
>their anatomy.
>
>You might notice I mentioned 3 child abuse groups.
>
>1: NAMBLA and their like
>2: Pedophiliacs Exchange
>3: Cops (That's who I'm assoicated with) We, bust groups 1 and 2 and put
>them where they can learn of their games.... From the child's point of
>view. (Group includes prosecutors, judges, corrections officers, and of
>course dispatchers, which was my job)
Since you have knowingly and willfully lied about the range of public
knowledge of NAMBLA ("...nobody outside the child abuse community") my
money is on you being a Card Carrying NAMBLA Member trying to throw
down a smoke screen.
FBI Sends Man-Boy Love Association Member to Prison
From Man-Boy Love Association Member Stung By FBI,
by Matt OConnor, published Aug 21, 2006, by Chicago Tribune:
A flight attendant from Chicago
David C. Mayer, 51, was about to board
a boat to Mexico when he was arrested last year. He and six others
snared in the FBI investigation thought they were traveling to a
bed-and-breakfast that provided boys for their sexual pleasure,
authorities charged.
A federal judge in San Diego sentenced Mayer to 37 months in prison on
Aug. 11.
Mayer had pleaded guilty to the sex offense on the condition he be
allowed to appeal the judges refusal to dismiss the charge on 1st
Amendment grounds.
The defense alleged the government had over-reached after an
undercover FBI agent infiltrated the North American Man/Boy Love
Association, or NAMBLA, secretly tape-recording discussions at annual
conventions in 2003 and 2004.
Within half an hour of meeting the FBI agent at the 2004 convention,
Mayer expressed frustration at the groups political agenda,
authorities said. The organization, formed in 1978, is dedicated to
eliminating age-of-consent laws.
Mayer wanted advice on traveling abroad to have sex with young boys,
according to court records.
I dont know whos lying to who or if
theyre lying to themselves
and saying, This is all political. This is all to change society,
Mayer said of conference organizers in the tape-recorded conversation.
[Expletive], its like, bring on the boys.
A spokeswoman for American Airlines confirmed that Mayer, formerly of
the 1200 block of North Sandburg Terrace, had worked for the airline
for almost 20 years until his arrest last year.
Mayer was also a licensed clinical social worker until late 2003,
according to state regulatory authorities, but he had never been the
subject of disciplinary action.
In a telephone interview last week, Robert Hamer, the undercover FBI
agent, said he joined NAMBLA in 2001 for a $35 fee while investigating
sex tourism in Thailand.
Over the next two years, Hamer won the trust of the groups leaders,
writing Christmas cards to incarcerated members and authoring stories
for a NAMBLA publication on chemical castration and the unfairness of
laws allowing charges against sex offenders decades after alleged
crimes.
Hamer, who retired from the FBI in January, said this was his most
personally challenging undercover assignment in a 26-year career. In
more than 20 undercover roles, he played everything from a contract
killer for the mob to an international arms dealer.
But posing as a pedophile thoroughly disgusted me, he said. I had
taken on an alter ego antithetical to everything I believed to be
right and moral.
In fall 2003, Hamer attended the invitation-only NAMBLA convention in
New York City, secretly tape-recording his conversations but being
careful not to ask too many questions for fear of drawing suspicion.
At an early session, the leader asked the 30 men in attendance to
identify themselves and explain why they had come to the convention.
When his turn came, Hamer feigned to be overcome by emotion, breaking
down and crying as he recounted his fears of being arrested when the
group encountered police officers while walking in Manhattan.
The ploy won him sympathy, said Hamer, who, as he had in numerous
other undercover roles, pretended to be disabled, using a crutch and
walking with a limp.
Hamer said the disability made it appear less likely that he was an
undercover agent and provided an excuse for his frequent absences.
He said he would tell the group he needed to take medication when in
fact he was replacing cassettes in his tape recorder.
A year later, at the Miami convention, Hamer said he became more
aggressive in his conversations in an effort to draw out discussions
of criminal activities.
Two days after the convention, Mayer e-mailed Hamer about Web sites
for hotels in Costa Rica and elsewhere that catered to homosexuals,
according to court records.
By the next month, Hamer promoted the trip to the Mexican
bed-and-breakfast, a ruse set up by the FBI.
The whole thing sounds fabulous, almost too good to be true,
authorities said Mayer replied in an e-mail.
Shortly after Christmas, Hamer received Mayers $620 payment for the
trip.
In February 2005, a day after Mayer and two co-defendants had flown to
San Diego, they were arrested as they were about to board a boat they
believed to be headed for trysts with boys in Mexico. Four others were
arrested in Los Angeles.
These are ministers, special-education teachers, a dentist,
professional people, Hamer said of those arrested. Theyre your
next-door neighbor, your kids coach.
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Or maybe the one proclaiming his law enforcement association is really
of another "association."