Post by ShagratPost by Frank McCoyAlso not quite sure why you'd need "security" to discuss
Bill-of-Rights issues. The point being that the unpopular people need
to be protected from unfair or illegal prosecution, or eventually WE
become the unpopular people being persecuted. (Yes, the
distinction/smearing between prosecution and persecution is
deliberate.)
Thanks for replying, Frank.
I read the thread featuring the ACLU and NAMBLA in asgl. In Canada we have
no First Amendment (is that the right one? Freedom of speech?).
That's the one.
Also the one that allows freedom of the Press and religion too.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Post by ShagratOur child
pornography laws specifically DO include written material - *you* would be
arrested here.
THAT I know. No, NOT for writing the stories I do (That sort of thing
HAS been thrown out by Canadian courts.), but for distributing them
over the net. In Canadian Law, that's a no-no.
Post by ShagratIt is not unlikely that I will get a tap at the door even
from this posting.
Now THAT I doubt indeed.
Perhaps maybe, if you were discussing some of my stories in
particular, like the child-having-sex ones.
Other stories (Like "Taking the Blame") are too-obviously political
propaganda ... and the cops would keep hands-off. Even up there, they
allow opposing viewpoints to be expressed about political issues ...
So far anyway.
And (of course) my SF or even adult-sex stories would be perfectly
fine ... Though somebody *might* look to see if you were also looking
over my more controversial stories as well.
Post by ShagratBut what is happening is just as bad as what happened
in Germany in the thirties and I felt I *must* speak out, no matter how
timidly.
One reason I post.
Back when I first started posting my very first story, "Her Father's
Daughter", I really *expected* the police to come knocking at my door
and arresting me for posting "illegal stories". At the time, and in
the next year or so I decided to take the bit in my teeth, and be
ready to STAND UP for freedom of speech, and freedom of the Press
(BOTH in my mind being affected in a story) and be willing to FIGHT
for the right to post these very stories.
With that in mind, I've taken certain precautions over the years.
A. No *other* porn on my computer ... or even other controversial
material other than TEXT. I simply *cannot* allow myself to be shut
down and silenced by some side-issue, where a judge says I cannot post
(or something like that) as part of my sentence or parole.
B. ALL of my stories have points to make. Some are thinly disguised
propaganda that it isn't AGE or WHO you make love to that matters,
it's HOW and WHY you have sex, and if you LOVE the person, instead of
just being interested in pleasuring yourself. Not ALL of those, even
with this message, are all shown from he positive angle. SOME make
the point by showing just how bad things can be in comparison.
Now WHY make each story a piece of propaganda, or at least have
something to say? Because, in ruling both for and against various
porn laws, the US Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that art or
things with social or other important messages (Can't for the life of
me remember the actual wording), then they're protected under the
Constitution and cannot be banned. So, I also do my best to make each
a work of art as well. Maybe not what those who hate my message would
consider "art", but well-crafted and made to give a message. Being
propaganda give my stories further protection in that they fall under
that part of the First Amendment guaranteeing the right, "to petition
the Government for a redress of grievances." Propaganda and telling
YOUR side of a story, or trying to get other people to agree with you
to change what you see as unfair laws, IS trying to get the government
to "redress grievances". That my method of trying to sway people is
by telling STORIES showing the positive side of what I see as good,
has a *long* history, going back to Christ and his parables, Aesop and
his tales, and long millennia before either one was born. To not
allow me to tell my stories showing *my* side of the debate, is to
forbid one of the most effective methods of communication available in
both speech and press. Swift did it with his tales of "Gulliver's
Travels". Why should I not be allowed to do the same?
That the message is *hated* by many doesn't detract from the fact that
it IS a message. Art doesn't have to be popular to be art either.
Actually, many people particularly HATE my stories, simply *because*
they are so convincing. Paradoxically, that makes them both more of a
target, and yet all the more protected under the First Amendment.
At one time, about 8 years ago or a little before, when things looked
darkest, I decided that I was going to stand up for the First
Amendment, be willing to face ugly challenges in Court, be willing to
lose my present life (which was MUCH richer back then, with a job that
I loved and that paid enormously better than any I can get today),
lose my family, my friends, my wife and lover, my child, and even my
life itself in defense of the ideal.
For a time, I really *did* expect at any hour of the day or night to
hear the crashing as they bashed in my door, confisticated my computer
and all my files, and held me incommunicado while they tried to invent
crimes for me to have committed ... even planting "child porn" on my
computer and saying I had been downloading and distributing that too.
For months I kept scrupulous records, continuous daily image-files of
my directories and FAT tables, so I could counter such prevarications
and SHOW that any such had been planted, not put there by me. (Now I
only do that every few months.)
Quite a few times I *did* find people I *suspect* to be Law
Enforcement people sending me back-doors and similar programs that
would have allowed them to poke around on my computer, erase disks,
and (more importantly, to me) easily plant illegal material on my
hard-drives. Whether they WOULD have done so, or just nosed around in
my private files, I have no idea. In any case, I squelched each
attempt. None of my anti-virus software has ever so much as hiccuped;
as I *know* how to keep such malicious material off my computer ... By
*never* opening or running ANY software I don't know the source of and
the (tested) cleanness of.
Like I said, I fully EXPECTED the Gestapo (OK, the FBI, Customs, or
Local Police) to at least knock on my door, grab files off my computer
(or borrow the computer itself) or (at the very LEAST) ask me pointed
questions about people I "know" ... People who browsed and commented
in the Newsgroup abpep-t.
Only ... LEA probably knows far more about that group than I do, even
though I've got a very complete record of most of the purely TEXT
messages in that group for several years.
With me being a "Faculty Member" of PU ... When the big "bust" went
down (Actually only three such got arrested out of more than 25) I
really REALLY expected a knock on the door for months. It never came.
It seems I was wrong in my suspicions. Perhaps LEA here in the USA
*is* more concerned with following the Constitution than harassing
some geek with unpopular ideas. Perhaps.
With George W. Bush in office, and if he remains there, I fully expect
that to change. Especially when he gets to nominate several new
justices to the Supreme Court. ;-{
Post by ShagratMy personal tastes are much like yours. I like looking at girls and women
from late childhood to early middle age, adore holding my seven year old
niece, and wouldn't dream of harming her. I felt the same way with my
Well ... While I find children sexy, I don't find them all that
*arousing*. In the presence of children, about the last thing I'd
think of is sex. In the past several years, a few times I'd think of
one of my stories, look around, see a child, and wonder about my
reaction with THAT child in the story. Surprisingly, the reaction is
more annoyance or distraction or even worry for the child than
arousal.
Of course, MY fantasy isn't to be a horny old man raping a child ...
or even being seduced by one. My fantasy is to BE a young child being
encouraged and *allowed* to have all the sex (s)he wants. An
impossibility, of course. We not only cannot go back to being young,
but we cannot easily change sexes ... and those who do, find it less
than completely satisfactory. With my bent, not being able to have
children would make it *completely* unsatisfactory.
I love children. Wish I could have had 4 or 5 ... or even 6, instead
of only one. Ah well ... When you have perfection ....
;-}
Post by Shagratolder nieces, kept my hands off them, and was rewarded a week ago when
number two niece allowed me to hold her two day old son (the first of his
generation). I am trusted and loved.
I *love* to hold babies. These days I get so little chance to do so.
;-{
Post by ShagratThe youngest girl ever to share my bed (many, many years ago - I barely
even remember her face) was two years *above* the age of consent and had a
thirty-one year old boyfriend. The woman who brought the most pleasure
into my life, and the one I was engaged to marry until she came to her
senses, was twenty-five when we met.
Heh. My wife of 30 years now (35 together) is older than I am.
She doesn't allow me to tell how MUCH older. ;-}
Post by ShagratProbably the biggest difference between you and me is that I dislike older
women. They don't smell right to me. Pheromones are missing. I like
talking to them, like walking with them, like being seen with them. I just
don't like bedding them.
I love older women.
I love younger women.
I love little girls.
I love the entire opposite sex.
My preferred sex-partner?
1. My wife, at any time.
2. A young woman, "old enough to know better, but young enough to
want to do it anyway." Somebody who likes sex for the sheer joy of
it, and willing to share that joy with me.
Post by ShagratIn any case, I felt that the poem was apropos for ACLU. I haven't checked
asgl yet, but hope you chose to use it.
Have you ever read CR's poem "When Society Has Its Way"?
If not, and you're interested, I'll post another copy here.
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